An interview with
Mrs. Polly Eyechahubbe
Post Office: Snow, Oklahoma
Mrs. Polly Eyechahubee
Post Office: Snow, Oklahoma
Investigator Field Worker's name: Johnson H. Hampton
Date of Interview: July 14, 1937
Transcribed & Submitted by Teresa Young
I was born August 1, 1871, in Kiamichi County, Choctaw Nation, east of what
is now Grant, Oklahoma. My fatherís name was Isham Peters, and my motherís
name was Elizabeth Peters. I donít know what her maiden name was. My
grandfatherís name was Gilbert Collins, and my grandmotherís name was
I donít know whether my father came from Mississippi or not; neither do I
know whether my mother came from there or not. My mother was of Cherokee
Indian blood. She lived somewhere near where my father lived. I donít think
that she ever lived with the Cherokee Indians when my father married her,
and I donít know whether my father was in the Civil War. If he was, he never
said anything about it nor he did not tell us anything about the War. Of
course we heard about the War but from other parties and not from my father.
My grandfather and grandmother came from Mississippi. When they arrived here
they located east of what is now Grant, Oklahoma. There was no stores nor
post office then. After they died, then my father lived near where my
grandparents lived before they died; in fact, we lived near there until I
was grown and married. My father and mother died there and were buried there
at home, for there was no cemetery to bury them, so they were buried at the
house like all other Indians were buried at that time.
We had a small farm that we cultivated. We raised all the corn we needed for
our bread, for that was about all the use we had for corn for we did not
feed any of the stock any corn at that time.
We had good many cattle, hogs and ponies. They ran out in the woods and out
on the range where they got all the grass they wanted, and out in the cane.
It was not far from Red River bottoms. In the winter the stock would run
there and in the summer they would come out in the hills. The grass stayed
green all winter so we did not have to feed the stock at all. All the
Indians that lived in our community had stocks. Of course they were not
worth much, as there was no market for them, but we would sell a few of them
for what we could get in order to buy some groceries with.
We raised plenty of corn for our bread. We used to put the corn in a mortar
or Tom Fuller block, and beat it until it got fine grain just like meal we
have now; then we would put it in some jar and let it sour; then we would
bake it, which we called sour bread. Then we would make bread out of meal
that was not soured which we called cornbread. When the corn got hard we
would grit it for bread. We made the gritter out of tin by punching holes
through it with a big nail; make it rough on one side, then nail it to a
board so it would be steady. Then we would grit the corn and make cornbread
that way. We would make hominy by the same way.
Mother had a spinning wheel and a loom. She would spin cotton into threads
and then she would put this thread in the loom and weave it, where she would
make cloths for dresses. She would make jean pants out of the cotton. She
would knit woolen socks and mittens out of wool. We had a few sheep for our
wool. We would shear the sheep in the early summer and keep it until the
winter. She would card it just like she did the cotton and then she would
spin the wool, then she would put it in the loom just like she does cotton,
then she would make socks and mittens out of the wool. She used to go out in
the woods and get some roots that she made dye out of but I donít remember
what they were. Anyway, she used to dye the cloth she made and it would look
store-bought, not as nice looking as store-bought but it was just as good.
I never saw anyone make any pottery but I used to see the pottery after they
were made. We had some of them ourselves. They were used to put hominy in.
We had one or two that would hold about one gallon of hominy and had some
smaller ones. I sure do wish I had saved one or two of them. I could have,
but I didnít think to save any of them for a keep-sake. Then we had horn
spoons made out of cow horns which we used in eating hominy. I donít see any
of them now.
Our trading post was at Paris, Texas. We traded there for several years. It
was not far to Paris from where we lived, so we went there to get our
groceries. After several years an inter-married man by the name of Robert
Jones put up a store in our neighborhood and called it Rose Hill. We traded
there with him for several years, and when the Frisco Railroad came through
and small towns began to be established, we went to Grant for our groceries.
This man Jones began to clear up the bottom along the Red River. He finally
had a big farm and it is still known as the Jones farm. It is a big farm. He
has been dead for several years.
I never saw an Indian war dance nor the scalp dance. I have heard of them
but I never saw any of them. Town where I lived they did not have those
dances that I know of. They did have dances that I went to but they called
it the Virginia Reel or something like that, I donít know what it is called,
only what they called it.
I never saw an Indian ball game. I used to hear of them, but I did not get
to go to any of them, I heard that it was a pretty hard game. They would
fight from the start until the game was over.
The nearest church was a Presbyterian Church at Old Goodland. We would go
there to attend the meeting. It was a camp meeting. The Indians would camp
there and feed the people that came to the church. They sometimes would have
a ďcryĒ, that is, if some Indian had died they would have his memorial
preached, then they would all cry. This would be on Sunday when their cry
would be had. This church has been turned into a school and it is a big
school now, run by the Presbyterian Church. I think that it is a sectarian
school now run by the Presbyterian Church. Lots of Indian girls and boys
attend this school.
When I was growing up we had no school in our neighborhood so I did not go
to school at all, so I am without an education. I can speak a little
English, just what I have picked up, but I canít read nor write English, nor
can I read or write in Choctaw. If I had some education and could remember
the dates I might have been able to tell you some things that I have omitted
in this story.
I am not a full blood Choctaw Indian. My father was an Indian. He was a
Choctaw but my mother was a part Cherokee. They were not full bloods, but I
donít know what degree of Choctaw blood I am, but I have lived with the
Choctaw Indians all of my life.
I am now living about one mile from Snow Post Office, about twenty-five
miles northeast of Antlers, Oklahoma.
(Note: Johnson Hampton gives quite accurately the Indian phraseology when
interviewing the Indian Pioneers and no change to more correct English is
made in his manuscripts.)
Transcribed & Submitted by Teresa Young
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